The “Romans Road” is way of presenting how to enter into salvation using only the book of Romans. Though the “Romans Road” is often incomplete. Below is the most concise and yet complete “Romans Road” to salvation. One can also read of the way into salvation using only the words of Jesus, the book of Acts, 1 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Colossians, Hebrews, and 1 Peter.
Romans 3:23, “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”
Romans 6:23, “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
Romans 5:8, “But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”
Romans 10:9–10, “that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
Romans 6:7, “For he who has died has been freed from sin.”
Romans 6:5–6, “For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin.”
Romans 6:3–4, “Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
Romans 6:16–18, “Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered. And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.”
The Holy Spirit didn’t dwell in them until after Christ was glorified (John 7:39).
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When those in Acts 2:4 were baptized with the Holy Spirit were they also indwelt by Him?
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The Spirit was in the Apostles when they were saved.
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Please answer the question that I asked you.
When those in Acts 2:4 were baptized with the Holy Spirit they are were also indwelt by Him.
True or False?
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You statement is grammatically flawed, “they are were also indwelt”.
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When those in Acts 2:4 were baptized with the Holy Spirit they are were also indwelt by Him.
True or False?
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Acts 2:2 says that the Spirit filled the house. Is that the indwelling?
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Elizabeth, Zechariah, and John the Baptist were filled with the Spirit (Luke 1:15, 41, 67) before the death of Christ and the indwelling of the Spirit in us (John 7:39, 14:17).
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1. The baptism with the Holy Spirit is the same as the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. When they were baptized wit the Holy Spirit in Acts 2:4 (cf. (Acts 1:5) they were at the very same time indwelt with the Holy Spirit. It is you who are extremely confused about the Holy Spirit.
2. The Spirit indwells us at the same time of sonship. You ignore Romans 8:9 and 1 John 4:13 at your own peril.
3. See The New International Greek Testament Commentray by Richard longenecker concerning Galatians 4:6: “For Paul, it seems, sonship and receiving the Spirit are so intimately related that one can speak of them in either order (cf. the almost free intertwining of categories in Rom 8:1-2 and 9-11), with only the circumstances of a particular audience, the issue being confronted, or the discussion that precedes determining the order to be used at any given time or place. So in 3:2-5 Paul begins his probatio by reminding his converts of their experiences as recipients of the Spirit in order then to lead them on to the climax of his argument as to their status as “sons of God” (3:26), with the conclusion being that they are therefore “Abraham’s seed” and heirs of the promise given to Abraham (3:29). In 6-7, however, though building to the same conclusion, Paul is working from a Christological confession of the church and so speaks of sonship as the basis for God’s gift of the Spirit. Clearly, hoti here is casual (“because,” “since”), building on the expressions huioi Theou (“sons of God”) of 3:26 and ee huiothesia (“the adoption,” “the sonship”) of 4:5. The statement is declarative of the Christian’s status: “You are sons” (este huioi). Also declarative is the statement “God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts”. Paul is not here setting out stages in the Christian life, whether logical or chronological. Rather, his emphasis is on the reciprocal relation or correlational nature of sonship and the reception of the Spirit.”
4. Thank you for citing another passage that demonstrates the baptism with the Holy Spirit (Galatinas 3:27). This baptism occurs to those who “receive the promise of the Spirit” (Galatians 3:14). This “promise” (the Holy Spirit) signifies one is a descendant of Abraham, i.e., a Christian (Galatians 3:29). Since the Gentiles “received” the promise of the Holy Spirit this proves that they were already descendants of Abraham/Christians before their water baptism (Acts 10:44-47). The TDNT reads, “3:14 simply shows that Pl. is thinking of a Pentecost of Gentile Christianity, the basic outpouring of the Spirit on the Gentiles” (6:426, footnote #624, pneuma, Schweizer). In other words, “it is the reception of the Spirit through faith which marks the beginning of the Christian life (Gal. 3:2 f.), a gift which fulfils the promise to Abraham and which therefore is another name for justification (Gal. 3:14; 1 Cor. 6:11)…” (NIDNTT 3:701, Spirit, Dunn). Finally, being baptized into Christ is to be clothed (endyw) with Christ (Galatians 3:27). Luke 24:49 teaches that this “clothing” (endyw) occurs upon the baptism with the Holy Spirit (cf. Acts 1:5) – which the Gentiles experienced before their water baptism (Acts 11:16).
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1) The filling of the Spirit is different from the indwelling in that one is commanded to be filled with the Spirit after becoming a Christian (Eph. 5:18).
2) I said nothing different. It is at the same time. After baptism comes indwelling of the Spirit, and therefore after the indwelling comes being a son. This is all at the same time. The scriptures do not contradict.
3) No disagreement there.
4) Again, the Spirit was received and with Cornelius (John 14:17), but the indwelling came at baptism in Jesus’ name where there is the forgiveness of sins.
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God gives the Holy Spirit to those who “obey” Him (Acts 5:32). The Gentiles were “given” the Holy Spirit before they wer water baptized (Acts 11:17; 15:8).
The baptism mentioned in Romans 6:3 refers to the baptism with the Holy Spirit. This saving baptism results in the Christian no longer being “slaves to sin” (Romans 6:6). This “spirit of slavery” is cancelled because the Christian has received the “Spirit of adoption” (Romans 8:15). The Gentiles are said to have “received” this Spirit before their water baptism (Acts 10:44-47).
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The Spirit indwells us after we are sons.
“And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying out, ‘Abba, Father!'” (Gal. 4:6).
And, we are sons after we are baptized.
“For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ” (Gal. 3:26-27). These two passages are parallel. For “through faith” “in Christ” is just as being “baptized into Christ”.
The baptism of the Spirit is not the same as the indwelling. You know that God’s Spirit can influence people to prophesy against their will. You are very confused and very mistaken.
The Spirit was with Cornelius, and in that since he received the Spirit as Jesus’ disciples did during Jesus’ life (John 7:39). This is as Jesus said in John 14:17, “the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.”
Romans 8 speaks of the indwelling, which is necessary to be a child and heir of God.
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