Without mentioning the details of early church “fathers” and early manuscript collections that affirm the 27-book collection to have existed before the 4th century, the Bible overwhelming shows that the Apostles oversaw the collection of the New Testament writings. Paul instructed the sharing of His writings in Colossians 4:16, and warned against false writings in 2 Thessalonians 2:1–2 and 3:17.
In short, 2 Peter 3:16 shows that all of Paul’s epistles were collected as Scripture and spread into lands not specifically addressed. Paul quoted Luke 10:7 as “Scripture” along with Deuteronomy in 1 Timothy 5:18. With the Gospel of Luke confirmed as Scripture, then the book of Acts is certainly Scripture along with the written Gospels mentioned by Luke in Luke 1:1–3 are too. Second Peter 1:16–21 shows that the writings of the Apostle John and Peter were already Scripture. John also affirmed inspired Scripture written by the Apostles in 1 John 1:1–4. The Apostles did oversee the collection. Read more here “The Formation of the New Testament.”
Some false teachers will affirm the inspiration of the Scriptures, and yet undermine the authority of the Scriptures by teaching that the New Testament Scriptures were collected in a 4th century council. These teachers would have you believe that the writings of the New Testament were not intended for all Christians.
Many false teachers even many conservative assume that men gathered the New Testament together in the 4th century, and many of them would even hide this belief from their fellowship. From this presumption, some say that 1 and 2 Timothy and Titus are not inspired or even written by Paul. Some may refer to Clement of Rome’s letter to the Corinthians or to other spurious “gospels” written in other centuries as though these have been cut out while never added or inspired in the first place. Such is bias. Many simply want to encourage doubt to persuade people to be cynical towards the reliability of even Jesus’s own words. This doubt undermines the infallibility of Christ, God’s providence in preserving Scripture, and denies that the Bible is complete in beliefs and practices. This allows the false teachers to assume an authority that is not theirs.
Such doubt disregards God and His ability to providentially sustain the words of Christ especially those words given to the Apostles and prophets. There is nowhere else to find Jesus’ words but in the Bible. Jesus said that His words will never pass away (Matt 24:35; Mark 13:31; Luke 21:33). Do not doubt that the most profound and sublime words ever written are in pristine and pure order being preserved by God.
We shouldn’t generalize any body of believers especially in a growing post-denominational world.
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“Regarding the Laodicean letter. From the text it seems the most likely explanation that it was letter written by the person speaking to the Laodicean Church.”
*Not in Greek, the letter is simply “the one out of” Laodicea. This letter could be Galatians since Galatians was written before Colossians. Colossians is a prison epistle and Galatians is not, so Galatians is agreed to be before Colossians by all scholarly introductions that I know. The letter out of Laodicea could be 1 Corinthians or 2 since these were specific and general letters. Paul wrote to “all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:” (1 Cor. 1:2b).
The Apostles laid out the index of books as the NT Bible. The Scriptures above the show the formation of the collection under the oversight of the Apostles.
Where do the Apostles refer to Jasher and not possibly to another source or oral tradition that resembles Jasher?
The lower or capitol “c” is not offensive. It is the derogatory abbreviation used is a number of condescending and filthy ways and smacks of denominating. Many in spite use “coc” to not refer to the churches as “of Christ”. “CoC” did not originate from us though some immature members use it. We’re offend by “church-of-Christers” too.
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— “Where do the Apostles refer to Jasher and not possibly to another source or oral tradition that resembles Jasher?” —-
Both times it appears in the bible.
Joshua 10:13 : . . .”Is not this written in the book of Jasher?”
2 Samuel 1:18: . . ..”behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.”
Seems pretty clear to me. . .
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— “*Not in Greek, the letter is simply “the one out of” Laodicea. ” —
The words can be interpreted as “letter written to the Laodiceans”, but also “letter written from Laodicea.” The NASB translates this verse in the latter manner, and translations in other languages such as the Dutch Statenvertaling translate it likewise: “When this letter is read among you, have it also read in the church of the Laodiceans; and you, for your part read my letter {that is coming} from Laodicea.”
— “The Apostles laid out the index of books as the NT Bible. ” —
Really? Where did they do this? In what verse would I find this?
There is an index in the Bible written by the apostles?
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Exactly, the NT does not refer to the book of Jasher. As shown before, referring to other sources do not make them inspired just truthful. If the book of Jasher is guided by the Spirit, then it is included in one of the books of the OT.
No, the words cannot be interpreted “the letter written from the Loadicians”. Neither the NASV or the translation you presented say “written to the Laodiceans”.
The NT is the index. Just as the OT is an index to Jesus.
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— “Exactly, the NT does not refer to the book of Jasher.” —-
And this changes what about what I said? Do you mean to infer that the OT is not inspired?
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— “No, the words cannot be interpreted “the letter written from the Loadicians”.”
That is your opinion, but they can most certainly be interpreted “and you, for your part read my letter . . .”
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— “The NT is the index. ” —
The NT is the index to itself? How does that work?
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The Apostles oversaw the collection of the NT, and that is how the NT is the index. It is the collection.
It is impossible to translate Col. 4:16 using the word “written” that does not appear in the text. “Read the letter from Loadocia.” You’re reading into the text (eisegesis). This shows bias and prejudice on your part. Lets consider this in honesty.
Jasher is a book of reference in the OT. If it is a part of the OT, then it is from the Spirit, and if not, then it is not from the Spirit but a book of reference like the pagan poet in Acts 17.
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